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Goldsworthy proposes an amendment to reduce the 10p rate of income tax to zero rather than doubling it to 20p as put forward in the bill. Cable warns that the tax changes included in the bill will harm small businesses and calls for a trial of new tax avoidance powers before they are fully implemented.
Small Businesses (Clause 3)
Dr Vincent Cable, Liberal Democrat Shadow Chancellor
Dr Cable said, “It is true that, as has just been said, the Budget’s
overall approach to business is neutral. It has probably been favourable to
large companies and less favourable to small companies, for reasons that have
already been given and particularly because of the impact of clause 3. However,
what we say as Opposition spokesmen is less important than the way in which
businesses themselves experience and perceive the changes. A fairly large survey
conducted by the British Chambers of Commerce, which represents both large and
small companies, concluded that 70 per cent. of United Kingdom businesses
believed that the proposals would damage them, mainly because of the impact on
small companies.”
“The Government would therefore be wise to heed the advice of the
Treasury Committee. The hon. Member for Fareham has already quoted its
conclusion that the Government should initiate a review of the policy for next
year's Finance Bill because of the unpredictable nature of the outcome, but it
is worth while quoting another sentence from the conclusion. It states:
“It is not clear whether measures such as the increase in the R&D tax
credit and the introduction of the Annual Investment Allowance will have the
desired beneficial impact on investment levels by small companies.”
“In several interventions, Labour Members have asserted as a matter of
dogma that the changes will increase investment, whereas the Treasury Committee,
representing three parties, looked at the matter across the board and concluded
that the results are likely to be entirely unpredictable. Therefore, I remain
totally unpersuaded that clause 3 is justified in anything like its present
form.”
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Colin Breed,
Liberal Democrat Shadow Treasury Minister
Mr Breed said, “It is part of the issue about stability that when people
are looking to create their business plans and looking to the quite considerable
growth of these sorts of businesses, they consider the expenses that they will
have to pay. Tax is one such expense. They would undoubtedly have made their
business plans on the basis that they would not be paying tax quite as quickly
as they are now going to be. I think that that will stunt some potential growth
and undermine investment from European objective 1 funding. The investment’s new
guise of convergence funding is even more titled towards such businesses, rather
than the old capital-intensive businesses. That funding is designed to generate
more knowledge-based industries. If we are to have this new tax regime, the real
benefit of boosting the economy of Cornwall, which is the essence of convergence
funding, will be undermined.”
Read this speech in full
MPs voted on the
clause
Ayes: 257, Noes: 138
The clause was therefore accepted
The Liberal Democrats voted against the clause
Read the full voting record here
Income Tax
(Amendment No. 10)
Julia Goldsworthy, Liberal Democrat Shadow Chief Secretary to the
Treasury
Moving the amendment Ms Goldsworthy said, “The amendments that we have
tabled on the income tax clause reiterate that theme. They seek to pursue two
different lines of inquiry, and pose questions that I hope will tease out the
Government’s line of thinking in relation to the announcements that the
Chancellor made in his final Budget.”
“First, we are trying to tease out the Government’s arguments behind the
Chancellor’s proposal to abolish the starting rate of income tax and to cut the
basic rate by 2p in the pound. That is dealt with by amendment No. 11 and by
amendment No. 12, which has not been selected for debate. It will be interesting
to hear the Minister’s justification of the abolition of the 10p starting rate,
which will result in millions of people who currently pay 10p in the pound
seeing their tax rate increase to 20p in the pound.”
“Secondly, we want to highlight the alternatives that the Government
could have considered, given that the Chancellor talked about tax changes that
would be “fairer”. This is dealt with in amendment No. 10, which, rather than
increasing the 10p starting rate to 20p, would get rid of it altogether, thereby
lifting people on very low incomes out of tax altogether. It would replace the
10 per cent. rate with a zero rate, which would have the opposite effect to that
announced by the Chancellor. Two million people would thereby be lifted out of
tax altogether. This was a proposal that our tax commission looked at, in
addition to cutting the basic rate of tax by 2p, as the Chancellor has
announced. Amendment No. 11 proposes to introduce the basic rate changes that
the Chancellor announced with great fanfare in the Budget but which, according
to the Government’s timetable, will not be introduced until the next financial
year.”
“The amendments are particularly pertinent given the coverage over the
weekend of how the wealth of the richest in our society has grown exponentially
over the past 10 years - yet the Government proposals will hit those on the
lowest incomes. Would it not have been fairer to fund a basic rate tax cut,
reducing that growing inequality, by raising taxes for those on very high
incomes, instead of raising taxes for those on very low incomes? As the “Rich
List” published in The Times at the weekend showed, the only tax that many of
those very rich people pay is council tax. Why did the Government not take the
opportunity provided by the Bill to introduce measures that would have made the
tax system fairer, perhaps by implementing some of the Lyons review’s
recommendations in the short term?”
“Will the Chief Secretary explain why, and on what basis, he would feel
unable to support now amendment No. 11, tabled by the Liberal Democrats, which
reduces the basic rate of tax to 20 per cent.? If the Government want to get rid
of the 10p rate, why would that be fairer? It was clearly presented as fairer in
the Budget, but in the aftermath of the Budget, Ministers were keener to present
it as a simplification measure, which is certainly more logical.”
“The amendments provide an opportunity for the Treasury to set the record
straight and follow through on its announcements in the Budget. I am not clear
why it was not able to do that in this year’s Finance Bill. If the Government
really consider the measure to be fairer, it makes sense to introduce it
straight away. Alternatively, is the Treasury keen to postpone certain arguments
until after the present Chancellor moves next door to No. 10?”
Click here to read Julia Goldsworthy’s speech closing the
debate
The amendment was withdrawn
Freelancers and Contractors (Amendment No. 1)
Dr Vincent Cable, Liberal Democrat Shadow Chancellor
Dr Cable said, “I want to introduce amendment No. 14, which stands in my
name and that of my hon. Friend the Member for Falmouth and Camborne (Julia
Goldsworthy), and to support amendment No. 1, which tries to achieve the same
thing in a somewhat different way.”
“The hon. Member for Chipping Barnet (Mrs. Villiers) has talked in some
detail about the technical and legal issues, and I do not want to duplicate
that. The value that I can add relates primarily to being a gnarled veteran of
the IR35 debate in the 1997 to 2001 Parliament, when we went through these
arguments in Committee and on the Floor of the House. Clause 25 is in many ways
a successor to that. In her introduction, the hon. Lady raised many
fundamentally important questions, including whether IR35 has failed, whether
clause 25 is a substitute for it or a complement to it, and how the two things
interact.”
“Having been involved in the IR35 debate, it was clear to me that we are in inherently difficult territory. We are dealing with an economy with a great deal of ambiguity; with the fuzzy borderline between employment and self-employment. That presents fundamental problems for any Government when it comes to avoidance, because there is quite a big margin of difference between the marginal tax rates paid by the employed and the self-employed through national insurance. A lot is at stake.”
“I hope that the Government will reconsider the matter. I reiterate that
we appreciate that there is a genuine problem of tax avoidance. We understand
that the Government are responsible for dealing with that and that avoidance -
and, indeed, serious criminal evasion in some cases - is happening with the
rapid growth of MSCs. Something must be done, but we want to provide a limited
opportunity for phasing in and conducting a study and analysis. That is the
sensible way in which to deal with the sensitivities of the companies
involved.”
MPs voted on the amendment
Ayes: 123, Noes: 265
The amendment was therefore rejected
The Liberal Democrats voted in favour of the amendment




















